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St John, St John's in the Vale
St John's Church
St John's in the Vale Church
Naddle Chapel
locality:-   St John's in the Vale
civil parish:-   St John's Castlerigg and Wythburn (formerly Cumberland)
county:-   Cumbria
locality type:-   church
coordinates:-   NY30642246
1Km square:-   NY3022
10Km square:-   NY32
references:-   : 2005: Diocese of Carlisle, Directory 2004/5


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BMH40.jpg (taken 29.6.2006)  
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CCZ51.jpg (taken 13.5.2015)  

evidence:-   old map:- OS County Series (Cmd 64 8) 
placename:-  St John's Church
source data:-   Maps, County Series maps of Great Britain, scales 6 and 25 inches to 1 mile, published by the Ordnance Survey, Southampton, Hampshire, from about 1863 to 1948.
"St. John's Church (Per Curacy)"

evidence:-   old map:- Bowen and Kitchin 1760
placename:-  St John's
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, A New Map of the Counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland Divided into their Respective Wards, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Emanuel Bowen and Thomas Kitchin et al, published by T Bowles, Robert Sayer, and John Bowles, London, 1760.
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"St. John's"
circle, tower 
item:-  Armitt Library : 2008.14.10
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Donald 1774 (Cmd) 
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, 3x2 sheets, The County of Cumberland, scale about 1 inch to 1 mile, by Thomas Donald, engraved and published by Joseph Hodskinson, 29 Arundel Street, Strand, London, 1774.
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"Chap"
church 
item:-  Carlisle Library : Map 2
Image © Carlisle Library

evidence:-   descriptive text:- West 1778 (11th edn 1821) 
placename:-  Vale of St John
placename:-  Nadale
source data:-   Guide book, A Guide to the Lakes, by Thomas West, published by William Pennington, Kendal, Cumbria once Westmorland, and in London, 1778 to 1821.
image WS21P305, button  goto source
Mrs Radcliffe's Ride over Skiddaw, 1794 
Page 305:-  "..."
"At length, as we ascended, ... A white speck on the top of St. John's Rigg, was pointed out by the guide to be a chapel of ease to Keswick, which has no less than five such scattered amongst the fells. From this chapel, dedicated to St. John, the rock and the vale have received their name; ..."

evidence:-   old text:- Clarke 1787
placename:-  St John's Chapel
source data:-   Guide book, A Survey of the Lakes of Cumberland, Westmorland, and Lancashire, written and published by James Clarke, Penrith, Cumberland, and in London etc, 1787; published 1787-93.
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Page 115:-  "..."
"... St John's chapel, standing upon a mountain, with no other edifice near it, except an Ale-house. The church and the ale-house are indeed such inseparable companions in this country, that I should almost suppose that poet, who says,"
""Wherever God erects an house of pray'r,
The devil always builds a chapel there,""
"... ..."

evidence:-   descriptive text:- Ford 1839 (3rd edn 1843) 
source data:-   Guide book, A Description of Scenery in the Lake District, by Rev William Ford, published by Charles Thurnam, Carlisle, by W Edwards, 12 Ave Maria Lane, Charles Tilt, Fleet Street, William Smith, 113 Fleet Street, London, by Currie and Bowman, Newcastle, by Bancks and Co, Manchester, by Oliver and Boyd, Edinburgh, and by Sinclair, Dumfries, 1839.
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Page 63:-  "... the chapel of St. John, secluded from the cheering rays of the sun during a quarter of the year. ..."

evidence:-   old map:- Ford 1839 map
placename:-  St John's
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Map of the Lake District of Cumberland, Westmoreland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by Charles Thurnam, Carlisle, and by R Groombridge, 5 Paternoster Row, London, 3rd edn 1843.
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"St. John's"
Labelling buildings. 
item:-  JandMN : 100.1
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evidence:-   old map:- Garnett 1850s-60s H
placename:-  St Johns
source data:-   Map of the English Lakes, in Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, 1850s-60s.
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"St. Johns"
cross, a church 
item:-  JandMN : 82.1
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evidence:-   old map:- Nurse 1918
source data:-   Map, The Diocese of Carlisle, Cumberland, Westmorland, and Lancashire North of the Sands, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Rev Euston J Nurse, published by Charles Thurnam and Sons, 11 English Street, Carlisle, Cumberland, 2nd edn 1939.
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"ST.-JOHN'S-IN-THE-VALE"
United benefice with Wythburn, but separate parish. 
item:-  JandMN : 27
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 stained glass

evidence:-   database:- Listed Buildings 2010
placename:-  Church of St John
source data:-  
courtesy of English Heritage
"CHURCH OF ST JOHN / / / ST JOHNS CASTLERIGG AND WYTHBURN / ALLERDALE / CUMBRIA / II / 72181 / NY3064722458"
source data:-  
courtesy of English Heritage
"Parish church. Inscribed over porch REBUILT 1845; but incorporating part of an earlier church, with 1893 restoration. Coursed mixed slate and igneous rock reinforced with small galleting pieces, under graduated greenslate roof. 6-bay nave/chancel with small rectangular west tower and north porch. 2-light windows in Tudor-style stone surrounds and similar 3-light east window. Tower has twin bellcote openings and battlemented parapets. Segmental-arched low stone porch. Interior has open timber roof. Carved Royal Arms of George III and marble wall plaques to Hodgson family 1774 and John Wilkinson 1853. Wooden panelling from box pews in Crosthwaite Church, brought here in 1893. C18 pulpit and sounding board are probably from another church, brought here in 1893. Early C18 sanctuary rails, and altar table by Sir G. Gilbert Scott, were the gift of Crosthwaite Church. Stained-glass east window of 1895 and heraldic south window to Henry Corrie Jackson who died in the Boer War, 1900. Furnishings and fittings, 1893."

evidence:-   old print:- Rose 1832-35 (vol.3 no.24) 
placename:-  Vale of St John
source data:-   Print, uncoloured engraving, The Vale of St John, Saddleback in the Distance, drawn by G Pickering, engraved by M J Starling, published by Fisher, Son and Co, London, 1835.
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vol.3 pl.24 in the set of prints, Westmorland, Cumberland, Durham and Northumberland Illustrated. 
printed at bottom left, right, centre:-  "G. Pickering. / M. J. Starling. / THE VALE OF ST. JOHN, SADDLEBACK IN THE DISTANCE. / FISHER, SON &CO. LONDON, 1835."
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2008.107.38
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evidence:-   old print:- Rose 1832-35 (vol.3 no.33) 
placename:-  Vale of St John
source data:-   Print, uncoloured engraving, Castle Rock, Vale of St John, Looking South, Cumberland, drawn by Thomas Allom, engraved by J Sands, published by Fisher, Son and Co, London, 1835.
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vol.3 pl.33 in the set of prints, Westmorland, Cumberland, Durham and Northumberland Illustrated. And two medieval looking knights riding up the glen. 
printed at bottom left, right, centre:-  "T. Allom. / J. Sands. / CASTLE ROCK, VALE OF ST. JOHN, LOOKING SOUTH, CUMBERLAND. / FISHER, SON &CO. LONDON, 1835."
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2008.107.44
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 sundial


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BMH44.jpg  Coat of arms, George III.
(taken 29.6.2006)  
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CCZ55.jpg  Memorial, Robert Hodgson, d.1774 et al.
(taken 13.5.2015)  
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CCZ56.jpg  Coat of arms, Robert Hodgson, d.1774.
(taken 13.5.2015)  
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CCZ57.jpg  Graining on church door.
(taken 13.5.2015)  
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CCZ58.jpg  Boot scraper
(taken 13.5.2015)  
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BMH47.jpg  Coat of arms, gravestone, John Wren of Birketbank, d.1784.
(taken 29.6.2006)  
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BMH45.jpg  John Richardson, local dialect poet, 1880s?
(taken 29.6.2006)  
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BMH46.jpg  Gravestone:-
"In / Loving Memory of / JOHN RICHARDSON / Of Bridge House / ST. JOHN'S IN THE VALE / WHO DIED ON THE 30TH. APRIL 1886 / Aged 68 Years / ..." (taken 29.6.2006)  

notes:-  
There might have been a church here in the 13th century.
There was a chapel of ease to Crosthwaite, Keswick record in 1554. The present building dates to 1845, incorporating parts of an older building.

: : church leaflet

hearsay:-  
John Richardson, 1817-1886, was a mason who later became a teacher. He wrote poems and tales in dialect.

Richardson, John: 1871: Cummerland Talk

dedication
person:-    : St John
place:-   St John's in the Vale / Carlisle Diocese

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