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Grisedale Tarn, Patterdale
runs into:-    Grisedale Beck

Grisedale Tarn
locality:-   Grisedale
civil parish:-   Patterdale (formerly Westmorland)
county:-   Cumbria
locality type:-   tarn
coordinates:-   NY34891205 (etc) 
1Km square:-   NY3412
10Km square:-   NY31
altitude:-   1769 feet
altitude:-   539m


photograph
BVL36.jpg (taken 26.9.2011)  
photograph
BQH17.jpg  OS maps call the rocks stepping stones.
(taken 17.3.2009)  

evidence:-   old map:- Saxton 1579
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Westmorlandiae et Cumberlandiae Comitatus ie Westmorland and Cumberland, scale about 5 miles to 1 inch, by Christopher Saxton, London, engraved by Augustinus Ryther, 1576, published 1579-1645.
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Sax9NY31.jpg
Lake. 
item:-  private collection : 2
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evidence:-   old map:- Speed 1611 (Cmd) 
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Cumberland and the Ancient Citie Carlile Described, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by John Speed, 1610, published by J Sudbury and George Humble, Popes Head Alley, London, 1611-12.
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SP11NY31.jpg
outline, shaded; Westmorland 
item:-  private collection : 16
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evidence:-   probably old map:- Jansson 1646
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Cumbria and Westmoria, ie Cumberland and Westmorland, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, by John Jansson, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1646.
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JAN3NY31.jpg
Outline with shore shaded, dotted area. 
item:-  JandMN : 88
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evidence:-   old map:- Sanson 1679
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Ancien Royaume de Northumberland aujourdhuy Provinces de Nort, ie the Ancient Kingdom of Northumberland or the Northern Provinces, scale about 9.5 miles to 1 inch, by Nicholas Sanson, Paris, France, 1679.
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SAN2Cm.jpg
outline, shore shaded; lake 
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2007.38.15
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evidence:-   old map:- Seller 1694 (Wmd) 
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Westmorland, scale about 8 miles to 1 inch, by John Seller, 1694.
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SEL7.jpg
outline with shaded shore; lake 
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2007.38.87
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evidence:-   old map:- Morden 1695 (Cmd) 
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Robert Morden, 1695, published by Abel Swale, the Unicorn, St Paul's Churchyard, Awnsham, and John Churchill, the Black Swan, Paternoster Row, London, 1695-1715.
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MD12NY31.jpg
Outline with shore shading. 
item:-  JandMN : 90
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evidence:-   almost certainly old map:- Morden 1695 (Wmd) 
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Westmorland, scale about 2.5 miles to 1 inch, by Robert Morden, published by Abel Swale, the Unicorn, St Paul's Churchyard, Awnsham, and John Churchill, the Black Swan, Paternoster Row, London, 1695.
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MD10NY41.jpg
Outline with shore shading, tinted blue. 
item:-  JandMN : 24
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evidence:-   old map:- Bowen and Kitchin 1760
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, A New Map of the Counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland Divided into their Respective Wards, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Emanuel Bowen and Thomas Kitchin et al, published by T Bowles, Robert Sayer, and John Bowles, London, 1760.
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BO18NY30.jpg
outline with form lines 
item:-  Armitt Library : 2008.14.10
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evidence:-   old map:- Otley 1818
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, The District of the Lakes, Cumberland, Westmorland, and Lancashire, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Jonathan Otley, 1818, engraved by J and G Menzies, Edinburgh, Scotland, published by Jonathan Otley, Keswick, Cumberland, et al, 1833.
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OT02NY31.jpg
item:-  JandMN : 48.1
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evidence:-   descriptive text:- Otley 1823 (5th edn 1834) 
source data:-   Guide book, A Concise Description of the English Lakes, the mountains in their vicinity, and the roads by which they may be visited, with remarks on the mineralogy and geology of the district, by Jonathan Otley, published by the author, Keswick, Cumberland now Cumbria, by J Richardson, London, and by Arthur Foster, Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria, 1823; published 1823-49, latterly as the Descriptive Guide to the English Lakes.
image OT01P034, button  goto source
Page 34:-  "... Grisedale Tarn, one of the larger class, lies in the junction of the three mountains Helvellyn, Seatsandal, and Fairfield. The road over the Hause, from Grasmere to Patterdale, passing the tarn, is accompanied by its stream down the vale of Grisedale, which unites with the parent valley near the Church. ..."

evidence:-   descriptive text:- Ford 1839 (3rd edn 1843) 
placename:-  Graysdale Tarn
source data:-   Guide book, A Description of Scenery in the Lake District, by Rev William Ford, published by Charles Thurnam, Carlisle, by W Edwards, 12 Ave Maria Lane, Charles Tilt, Fleet Street, William Smith, 113 Fleet Street, London, by Currie and Bowman, Newcastle, by Bancks and Co, Manchester, by Oliver and Boyd, Edinburgh, and by Sinclair, Dumfries, 1839.
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Page 148:-  "..."
"... The stream that rushes down across the road, flows out of Graysdale Tarn, through a moist green dale, with one single house embosomed in sycamores. ..."

evidence:-   old map:- Ford 1839 map
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Map of the Lake District of Cumberland, Westmoreland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by Charles Thurnam, Carlisle, and by R Groombridge, 5 Paternoster Row, London, 3rd edn 1843.
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FD02NY31.jpg
Outline. 
item:-  JandMN : 100.1
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evidence:-   old drawing:- Aspland 1840s-60s
placename:-  Grisedale Tarn
source data:-   Drawing, pencil and ink wash, near Grisedale Tarn, Patterdale, Westmorland, by Theophilus Lindsey Aspland, 23 August 1852.
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AS0320.jpg
"Near Grisedale Tarn / Aug 23/52."
"looking towards Ulswater? / Helvellyn? / Grisedale Tarn?"
page number  "15"
item:-  Armitt Library : 1958.390.20
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evidence:-   old map:- Garnett 1850s-60s H
source data:-   Map of the English Lakes, in Cumberland, Westmorland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, 1850s-60s.
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GAR2NY21.jpg
outline, lake or tarn 
item:-  JandMN : 82.1
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evidence:-   old text:- Martineau 1855
source data:-   Guide book, A Complete Guide to the English Lakes, by Harriet Martineau, published by John Garnett, Windermere, Westmorland, and by Whittaker and Co, London, 1855; published 1855-76.
image MNU1P049, button  goto source
Page 49:-  "... Grisedale tarn, the mountain tarn of the wild boar, as the words properly signify. ..."

evidence:-   old photograph:- Bell 1880s-1940s
source data:-   Photograph, sepia, Fairfield, and Grisedale Tarn, Patterdale, Westmorland, by Herbert Bell, photographer, Ambleside, Westmorland, 1890s.
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HB0567.jpg
internegative at lower left:-  "H. Bell"
item:-  Armitt Library : ALPS227
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evidence:-   old print:- MacBride 1922
placename:-  Grisedale Tarn
source data:-   Print, colour, Grisedale Tarn, Ullswater in the Distance, by Alfred Heaton Cooper, published by Adam and Charles Black, 4-6 Soho Square, London, 2nd edn 1928.
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MB0115.jpg
Tipped in opposite p.96 in Wild Lakeland by MacKenzie MacBride. 
printed at bottom:-  "GRISEDALE TARN (ULLSWATER IN THE DISTANCE)"
signed at lower left:-  "A. HEATON COOPER"
item:-  JandMN : 195.17
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evidence:-   old print:- Goodwin 1887 (edn 1890) 
placename:-  Grisdale Tarn
source data:-   Print, etching? Grisdale Tarn, Patterdale, Westmorland, by Harry Goodwin, published by Swan Sonnenschein and Co, Paternoster Square, London, 1890.
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PR1597.jpg
Tipped in opposite p.132 of Through the Wordsworth Country, by William Knight. 
printed at lower left:-  "Grisdale Tarn"
item:-  JandMN : 382.27
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photograph
BVL34.jpg (taken 26.9.2011)  
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BOE44.jpg (taken 11.9.2007)  
photograph
CDZ95.jpg  Grisedale Tarn, St Sunday Crag, Deepdale Hause, etc
(taken 28.9.2015)  

hearsay:-  
The saxon king Edmund is said to have thrown the crown of Dunmail into the tarn after he had defeated him in battle, 945.

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