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Liddel Water
runs into:-    Esk, River

Liddle Water
civil parish:-   Arthuret (formerly Cumberland)
civil parish:-   Kirkandrews (formerly Cumberland)
civil parish:-   Nicholforest (formerly Cumberland)
county:-   Cumbria
locality type:-   river
locality type:-   boundary
locality type:-   national boundary
locality type:-   county boundary
1Km square:-   NY4377 (etc) 
10Km square:-   NY47
country:-   Scotland
current boundary
locality:-   Cumbria boundary


photograph
CBN50.jpg  At Penton Bridge.
(taken 29.8.2014)  
photograph
CBN51.jpg  At Penton Bridge, Cowugly Pool.
(taken 29.8.2014)  

evidence:-   old map:- OS County Series (Cmd 3 9) 
placename:-  Liddel Water
source data:-   Maps, County Series maps of Great Britain, scales 6 and 25 inches to 1 mile, published by the Ordnance Survey, Southampton, Hampshire, from about 1863 to 1948.

evidence:-   old map:- Saxton 1579
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Westmorlandiae et Cumberlandiae Comitatus ie Westmorland and Cumberland, scale about 5 miles to 1 inch, by Christopher Saxton, London, engraved by Augustinus Ryther, 1576, published 1579-1645.
image
Sax9NY47.jpg
County boundary. 
item:-  private collection : 2
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Burghley 1590 (facsimile) 
placename:-  Liddall flu.
source data:-   Facsimile map, A Platt of the Opposete Border of Scotland to ye West Marches of England, parts of Cumberland and Scotland including the Debateable Land, from a manuscript drawn for William Cecil, Lord Burghley, about 1590, published by R B Armstrong, 1897.
courtesy of the National Library of Scotland
image
M048NT50.jpg
"Liddall flu"
river 
item:-  National Library of Scotland : MS6113 f.267
Image © National Library of Scotland

evidence:-   old map:- Speed 1611 (Cmd) 
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Cumberland and the Ancient Citie Carlile Described, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by John Speed, 1610, published by J Sudbury and George Humble, Popes Head Alley, London, 1611-12.
image
SP11NY48.jpg
double line, joined by the Kershope 
image
SP11NY37.jpg
double line with stream lines, runs into the Esk; national boundary 
item:-  private collection : 16
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Jansson 1646
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Cumbria and Westmoria, ie Cumberland and Westmorland, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, by John Jansson, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1646.
image
JAN3NY48.jpg
image
JAN3NY47.jpg
Double wiggly line, tapering to single; country boundary. 
item:-  JandMN : 88
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evidence:-   old map:- Sanson 1679
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Ancien Royaume de Northumberland aujourdhuy Provinces de Nort, ie the Ancient Kingdom of Northumberland or the Northern Provinces, scale about 9.5 miles to 1 inch, by Nicholas Sanson, Paris, France, 1679.
image  click to enlarge
SAN2Cm.jpg
tapering wiggly line; river, county boundary with Scotland 
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2007.38.15
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Seller 1694 (Cmd) 
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 12 miles to 1 inch, by John Seller, 1694.
image  click to enlarge
SEL9.jpg
tapering wiggly line; river; county boundary 
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2007.38.89
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Morden 1695 (EW) 
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, England, including Wales, scale about 27 miles to 1 inch, by Robert Morden, published by Abel Swale Awnsham and John Churchil, London, about 1695.
image  click to enlarge
MRD3Cm.jpg
tapering wiggly line 
item:-  JandMN : 339
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evidence:-   old map:- Morden 1695 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Kirksop River
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Robert Morden, 1695, published by Abel Swale, the Unicorn, St Paul's Churchyard, Awnsham, and John Churchill, the Black Swan, Paternoster Row, London, 1695-1715.
image
MD12NY48.jpg
"Kirksop R."
With the national boundary drawn alongside. 
item:-  JandMN : 90
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evidence:-   probably descriptive text:- Simpson 1746
placename:-  Eske, River
source data:-   Atlas, three volumes of maps and descriptive text published as 'The Agreeable Historian, or the Compleat English Traveller ...', by Samuel Simpson, 1746.
image SMP4P187, button  goto source
"Longtown, near where the Eske and Kirksop Rivers meet: ..."

evidence:-   old map:- Bowen and Kitchin 1760
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, A New Map of the Counties of Cumberland and Westmoreland Divided into their Respective Wards, scale about 4 miles to 1 inch, by Emanuel Bowen and Thomas Kitchin et al, published by T Bowles, Robert Sayer, and John Bowles, London, 1760.
image
BO18NY47.jpg
wiggly line, national boundary Cumberland Scotland, into the Esk 
item:-  Armitt Library : 2008.14.10
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Donald 1774 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Liddel River
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, 3x2 sheets, The County of Cumberland, scale about 1 inch to 1 mile, by Thomas Donald, engraved and published by Joseph Hodskinson, 29 Arundel Street, Strand, London, 1774.
image
D4NY48SE.jpg
image
D4NY47NW.jpg
"Liddel River"
image
D4NY47SW.jpg
single or double wiggly line; a river and national boundary 
item:-  Carlisle Library : Map 2
Images © Carlisle Library

evidence:-   old text:- Camden 1789
placename:-  Lidd
source data:-   Book, Britannia, or A Chorographical Description of the Flourishing Kingdoms of England, Scotland, and Ireland, by William Camden, 1586, translated from the 1607 Latin edition by Richard Gough, published London, 1789.
image CAM2P176, button  goto source
Page 176:-  "..."
"Where the river Lidd falls into the Esk was formerly, as I have been told, Liddel, a castle ..."

evidence:-   old map:- Aikin 1790 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Liddel River
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Cumberland, by John Aikin, London, 1790.
image  click to enlarge
AIK3.jpg
"Liddel R."
river; on county boundary 
item:-  JandMN : 145
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Bailey 1797
placename:-  Liddle River
source data:-   Map, soil etc, uncoloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 21 miles to 1 inch, by J Bailey, engraved by Neele, Strand, published by Messrs Robinson, Paternoster Row and G Nicol, Pall Mall, London, 1797.
image  click to enlarge
BY04.jpg
"Liddle R."
river; on county boundary 
item:-  Armitt Library : A680.2
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evidence:-   old map:- Cooper 1808
placename:-  Liddel River
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 10.5 miles to 1 inch, drawn and engraved by Cooper, published by R Phillips, Bridge Street, Blackfriars, London, 1808.
image  click to enlarge
COP3.jpg
"Liddel R."
tapering wiggly line; river, county boundary with Scotland 
item:-  JandMN : 86
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Wallis 1810 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Lidd River
source data:-   Road map, hand coloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 16 miles to 1 inch, by James Wallis, 77 Berwick Stree, Soho, London, 1810.
image  click to enlarge
WL13.jpg
"Lidd R."
river; county boundary 
item:-  Dove Cottage : 2009.81.10
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old map:- Hall 1820 (Cmd) 
placename:-  Liddle River
source data:-   Map, hand coloured engraving, Cumberland, scale about 21 miles to 1 inch, engraved by Sidney Hall, published by S Leigh, 18 Strand, London, 1820-31.
image  click to enlarge
HA14.jpg
"Liddle R."
tapering wiggly line; river; county boundary 
item:-  JandMN : 91
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evidence:-   old map:- Ford 1839 map
placename:-  Liddel River
source data:-   Map, uncoloured engraving, Map of the Lake District of Cumberland, Westmoreland and Lancashire, scale about 3.5 miles to 1 inch, published by Charles Thurnam, Carlisle, and by R Groombridge, 5 Paternoster Row, London, 3rd edn 1843.
image
FD02NY48.jpg
"Liddel River"
item:-  JandMN : 100.1
Image © see bottom of page

evidence:-   old print:- 
placename:-  Liddle, River
item:-  otterdogotter houndcostume
source data:-   Print, hand coloured, The Carlisle Otter Hunt, Liddel Water, Penton, Nicholforest, Cumberland, after George Earl, published by H Koekkoek, 27 Piccadilly, London, 1876.
image  click to enlarge
PR0962.jpg
A crowd of men, two of them wearing scarlet hunting jackets, and a pack of otterhounds, pursue an otter which has descended the rocky wooded hillside into the river at its foot. 
labelled at bottom centre on mount:-  "The Carlisle Otter Hunt, River Liddle, Penton, 1876. George Earl"
item:-  Tullie House Museum : 1951.96
Image © Tullie House Museum


photograph
CBN52.jpg  Under Penton Bridge.
(taken 29.8.2014)  
photograph
BMQ45.jpg  At Penton Bridge.
(taken 15.9.2006)  


photograph
BSV99.jpg  At Kershopefoot Bridge; the Kershope Burn joins on the right.
(taken 4.6.2010)  

places:-  
NY47428284 Barn Pool (Nicholforest)
NY44407897 Bendal Pool (Nicholforest)
NY42897641 Black Kist Pool (Nicholforest)
NY43127713 Blae Pot (Nicholforest)
NY44497879 Boat Pool (Nicholforest)
NY43307747 boundary sign, Nicholforest (Nicholforest)
NY39117381 Caldron Pool (Kirkandrews)
NY46238006 Carl Pool (Nicholforest)
NY44137822 Cat Linns (Nicholforest)
NY43297741 Cowugly Pool (Nicholforest)
NY47378162 Crowwood Pool (Nicholforest)
NY44047817 Dormont Pool (Nicholforest)
NY41637640 Dougal Pot (Kirkandrews)
NY46438073 Dunk Pool (Nicholforest)
NY47118204 Flock Pool (Nicholforest)
NY46628060 Fowl's Nest Pool (Nicholforest)
NY44907949 Francis Ford (Nicholforest)
NY40957551 Hall Pool (Kirkandrews)
NY43527810 Hog Wash (Nicholforest)
NY44357859 Huddshole Ford (Nicholforest)
NY41427587 Inch Pool (Kirkandrews)
NY46988231 Kerr Pool (Nicholforest)
NY47468292 Kershopefoot Bridge (Nicholforest)
NY41057551 Liddel Viaduct (Kirkandrews) L
NY43077740 Loup Pool (Nicholforest)
NY42267628 Meggie's Ford (Nicholforest)
NY43277744 Penton Bridge (Nicholforest)
NY43077738 Penton Linns (Nicholforest)
NY43357729 Penton Mill (Nicholforest)
NY44947948 Pot, The (Nicholforest)
NY46988110 Rutty Pool (Nicholforest)
NY46408111 Sandy Pool (Nicholforest)
NY46118031 Stonehouse Crook (Nicholforest)
NY46778111 Tom Bell's Linn (Nicholforest)
NY39407386 Willow Pool (Kirkandrews)
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